Comments on: Web 3.0: Are We There Yet? http://techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/ The rantings of a techie Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:37:13 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: flyingtroll.com http://techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-97 flyingtroll.com Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:49:00 +0000 http://blog.techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/#comment-97 "it seems the focus of the web is shifting -- or already has shifted -- away from people, and more towards services"<br/><br/>Actually, I think the opposite is true. I think that the people are trying to put themselves at the center of their web universe, and expect all of the services to revolve around them.<br/><br/>Choice is a big part of identity. There are a lot of great photo sharing web sites out there, like Flickr or Picasa, or some of the niche players. I've made the decision to be a Flickr user, a del.icio.us user, a WordPress user, a Twitter user -- that's all part of my identity. I want any other service that I select to play nicely with my existing services.<br/><br/>Web 1.0 was all about getting peoples' data locked in to your web site and not sharing that data with anyone else. Web 2.0 is the promised land of APIs and interoperability. Facebook just seems to be going in the exact opposite direction, promoting their platform (API) to developers in order to produce shoddy, useless plugins. “it seems the focus of the web is shifting — or already has shifted — away from people, and more towards services”

Actually, I think the opposite is true. I think that the people are trying to put themselves at the center of their web universe, and expect all of the services to revolve around them.

Choice is a big part of identity. There are a lot of great photo sharing web sites out there, like Flickr or Picasa, or some of the niche players. I’ve made the decision to be a Flickr user, a del.icio.us user, a WordPress user, a Twitter user — that’s all part of my identity. I want any other service that I select to play nicely with my existing services.

Web 1.0 was all about getting peoples’ data locked in to your web site and not sharing that data with anyone else. Web 2.0 is the promised land of APIs and interoperability. Facebook just seems to be going in the exact opposite direction, promoting their platform (API) to developers in order to produce shoddy, useless plugins.

]]> By: eternicode http://techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-96 eternicode Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:12:00 +0000 http://blog.techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/#comment-96 Thanks for the comment, robojiannis.<br/><br/>I think you're probably right in the idea of current technologies/services being the foundation of the "next level", as it were. Something like the "2.5 phase" I mentioned in my last paragraph.<br/><br/>The question is, what is the next level? Is it seamless integration of services, ad hoc, on a whim? Or will it come when all major computing is cloud-based? I suppose we'll know it when we see it. At least, we can hope we will.<br/><br/>Or did you mean that you believe Web 3.0 will be a "Semantic Web"?<br/><br/>And I can also see your point of the services taking advantage of the popularity of the web :P who's <i>not</i> trying to do that? ;) Thanks for the comment, robojiannis.

I think you’re probably right in the idea of current technologies/services being the foundation of the “next level”, as it were. Something like the “2.5 phase” I mentioned in my last paragraph.

The question is, what is the next level? Is it seamless integration of services, ad hoc, on a whim? Or will it come when all major computing is cloud-based? I suppose we’ll know it when we see it. At least, we can hope we will.

Or did you mean that you believe Web 3.0 will be a “Semantic Web”?

And I can also see your point of the services taking advantage of the popularity of the web :P who’s not trying to do that? ;)

]]> By: robojiannis http://techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-95 robojiannis Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:27:00 +0000 http://blog.techknack.net/web-30-are-we-there-yet/#comment-95 I'm really skeptical if these services are web 3.0 - or semantic - applications. <br/>I tend to believe that some of these applications and services, such as OpenID or data portability, are mostly the foundations of the upcoming step of the web.<br/>Other than that, I see most of these services as attempts to take commercial, financial, or whatever advantage of the popularity of the web. I’m really skeptical if these services are web 3.0 – or semantic – applications.
I tend to believe that some of these applications and services, such as OpenID or data portability, are mostly the foundations of the upcoming step of the web.
Other than that, I see most of these services as attempts to take commercial, financial, or whatever advantage of the popularity of the web.

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